that’s why it’s called fantasy.you don’t have to like it but come on,the ones by nolan were more unrealistic to me because there was no fantasy at all(it’s fucking batman!the comics aren’t realistic either)i did like the dark knight rises,rediculous,but bane was awesome.

i watched batman (1989) endless times,stil to this day,batman doesn’t shoot jack,jack shoots at batman and the bullet ricochets from his armour back in jack’s face,the rest is history

He was the red hood 1st then became the joker when batman knocked him into acid.

Otherwise the Burton movies were… I dunno, they just didn’t quite strike the right balance for me; they should have been either dark with some light relief, or campy, but instead they kind of try to straddle in between and fail miserably. I didn’t like Keaton as either Batman or Bruce Wayne as he just seems too nice to be Batman, and too boring as Bruce Wayne. The duality works best when both are extreme characters; Batman fighting crime and Bruce Wayne as a savvy business owner and philanthropist, or as a playboy, but Keaton’s rendition is just too watered down in both roles.

I likewise didn’t like the Joker, as the make-up for the face is truly terrible, and shoe-horning him into Batman’s origin story was unnecessary as Batman is the origin of the Joker, not the other way around. Penguin likewise was a very uninspiring character, too much on the silly side with no real hook to make him work. Catwoman in the series was amusing and dark, but again the whole thing has this lurching balancing act between camp foolishness and dark that just doesn’t work. The films are best when they’re being dark, but even then their main contributions are their style and not much else.